Recently, I had the opportunity to represent the great company I work for full time (www.plainjoestudios.com) on Tony Morgan’s Unstuck Podcast as we talked through five mistakes churches make with their physical space. You can listen to the podcast (episode 305) on your favorite podcast app or at the Unstuck website. Tony was a great host and we had a great conversation! If you want to take the conversation further, reach out to me at phil@backstagepastors.org.