In this episode of Backstage Pastors™️ Phil and Tyler sit down with David Fletcher, founder of XPastor.org, one of the most comprehensive resource hubs for executive pastors. David shares the origin story of his work, which began out of a lack of available research and has grown into a platform with thousands of resources and hundreds of thousands of annual users.

The conversation explores practical tools available to executive pastors, including free courses, weekly webinars, and a robust salary database built from billions of dollars of church compensation data. David explains how churches can leverage this data for better, more objective compensation decisions and discusses the value of independent compensation studies.

When I first became an Executive Pastor way back in 2005, one of the first resources I came across was David Fletcher’s website xpastor.org David’s annual XP Seminar is still the only significant XP conference that I’m aware of anywhere (please email me if I’m wrong!) I’ve spoken at the seminar several times since then. Just recently, David had me on his weekly show for a fast-paced interview and Q&A session with anyone who wanted to join in. As always, David is a fun guy to talk with and I had a great time sharing with him about the update to “Defining The Executive Pastor Role”. You can watch the interview here. Or subscribe to the podcast and find the audio that way.

Last week I had the great privilege of speaking at the XP-Seminar in Dallas, TX on The Soul of The Executive Pastor. Contrary to popular belief, this is not an oxymoron. XP’s actually do have souls! This is something I’ve been doing a lot of thinking on over the last couple of years and

I’m exited to be teaching at the XPastor Seminar in about a month from now. If you’ve never been before, it’s not too late to sign up and I’d highly recommend it regardless of where you are in your development as an XP.

This fall, I’m excited to be partnering with David Fletcher at XPastor.org by teaching in his XP-Certification Program. David is one of the strongest and most trustworthy voices in the XP Community. His website has long been a great source of information for XP’s around the country and his yearly XP-Seminar has been the ONLY conference specifically created for second chair leaders in the church. Plus, he’s just an awesome guy that you can’t help but like.